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lightmanx5
lightmanx5
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Wed, Apr. 9th, 2008 10:25 pm
On Vox: Jacob I loved, Esau I hated

I was talking with David Horning this evening about a Bible verse, so I started to do a little reading...

Here is what Matthew Henry has to say about Luke 14:26:

[1.] Every good man loves his relations; and yet, if he be a disciple of Christ, he must comparatively hate them, must love them less than Christ, as Leah is said to be hated when Rachel was better loved. Not that their persons must be in any degree hated, but our comfort and satisfaction in them must be lost and swallowed up in our love to Christ, as Levi’s was, when he said to his father, I have not seen him, Deu. 33:9. When our duty to our parents comes in competition with our evident duty to Christ, we must give Christ the preference. If we must either deny Christ or be banished from our families and relations (as many of the primitive Christians were), we must rather lose their society than his favour.


This makes me wonder if the whole Jacob I loved, Esau I hated thing is the same deal?  But I kinda think not because didn't God want Esau destroyed?

Originally posted on lightmanx5.vox.com


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masticatus
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Steve
Thu, Apr. 10th, 2008 03:53 pm (UTC)

Well, the whole comparative thing is something we add to the scripture to try to make sense of a contradiction. What I was trying to explain on Tuesday was that the Jacob/Esau comparison is a comparison, but the "hate" there is an "opposition to."

God opposed Esau, and blessed Jacob.

Interestingly, Esau was a successful person, as we see that he had many servants. Which shows what Jesus said that God causes rain to fall on the righteous and wicked. So this opposition/hate by God toward Esau could be seen as God hating Esau's wickedness, and blessing Jacob's righteousness.

But Jacob was in no way more righteous than Esau when he was blessed, or chosen, when he was born ("the older will serve the younger"). He was a deceptive young man, and even deceived his uncle later in life by interbreeding their sheep.

Paul's application of the Jacob/Esau divide was in explaining election. Clearly Jacob was elected before his birth, and Esau was despised. And this election was for the blessing of the Lord and of the lineage of the Messiah. Our election is to eternal life.

So from this we see that Esau is the image of the unbeliever and Jacob is the image of the believer. God's hatred is thus towards the unregenerate, and the elect are chosen to be saved through the washing by blood and renewing of mind by the power of the Spirit.

We too were hated by God, but he loved us so much he saved is. Paradoxical.

So what do we learn from all of this in relation to Luke 14:26 and onward? What I was trying to express, and I'm poor at it in voice, is that we are to follow Jesus and his commands while entirely disregarding the demands and commands of all others as they conflict with the Word of the Lord. As God both hated us and loved us, we are to hate and love the world. We are sojourners here. We are not of this world, and our work here should be the work of one from another world reaching into this one to show love and mercy to the enemies of God.

Because our language is so limiting, this hate is not spite, evil thoughts or anger towards anyone, it is then correctly placed, as Matthew Henry and so many others say, in a comparative view. This is a simplistic way on answer, but when you discover what it truly means, it's political, it's social, it's spiritual. It alters the way in which one lives.

And I think in this country something has been spiritualized, like in so many past empires and kingdoms, and that is America. America is placed on par with Christ, and it is a great evil. We disobey the Lord of Hosts to carry out the plans of the nation. We're encouraged to lie, steal, deceive, kill, abandon the sabbath, idolize our sovereignty, and dishonor our parents all for the sake of "national security" or "foreign interests" or whatever it is. And that's what it means to "forsake all others." That's what it means to "be a stranger in this land."

One blogger friend of mine explained why he didn't vote by saying he wouldn't vote in France either. The image here is that of a resident alien. We live here under the laws of the nation, but we are not a part of this nation, we are not vested in her interests.


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